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The Tip Sheet – 2022 Ep 35: Instant Reaction, Stumbling, Bumbling Eels Humbled By Bulldogs

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Parramatta fell to their worst loss of the season in a 34-4 humbling by the Bulldogs. Sixties and Forty20 rip off the bandaid in the Instant Reaction to talk about a bizarre lack of faith in proven systems and an inexplicable need to play ‘heroball’.

Sixties questions how the Eels handled their bye week given the lack of energy and focus put on display today while Forty20 calls for changes against the Roosters – including a stint in NSW Cup for Reed Mahoney.

As always with ugly losses like these we respect the robust discussion that comes with them. That said, please keep things civil and keep criticism focused on the footy rather than personal attacks on players, coaches or other members of the community.

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Ken 70,

Not even worthy of a team review ,mentally soft as butter, type of game question why support this team,

Anonymous

by that reply you dont !!

Gianni

We don’t have any elite players.But we have at least 6 being paid that money.We we’re worst than pathetic today.Probably the worst performance I can remember from an eels side ever and you know what I sort of expected it.We are as soft as marsh mellows and it starts at the Coach who can’t prepare us for games we are expected to win.I could go on all day.

Anonymous

You usually do !

Gianni

Put a name to yourself hero.

Anonymous

Well Its ken , whats the difference whoever you are .

Murray Cod

I agree wholeheartedly Gianni. It is a coaches job to make sure the players are on song mentally. IMO, they weren’t and he BA didn’t. He did say pre-game that he believed the team had earned 5 days off and it would freshen them up? Got that wrong too!

Milo

Will tune into this one later on today; am i the only one who thinks N Brown has been quiet this year???? He is not the only one but seems to be off the mark….

MickB

He had a couple of good games at the start of the year, otherwise has been ordinary I agree.

Murray Cod

I thought Nathan Brown was one of our better ones. We must be watching a different game Milo.

Milo

Probably Murray, we all see things differently. i just think he has been quiet all season.

Karl V

Marata to the bench – hasn’t had the impact starting. Ice back to the edge and start Matto at lock. Reed really needs a week off or clear direction, killing us with some terrible play calls and has been that way all year. Junior needs to run first, ball play second. Will also needs to play smarter footy, great potential but is making poor errors. Mentality was completely off and not for the first time this year – which is down to the players and the coaching staff. Was a tough afternoon at the stadium – bitterly disappointing. Worst loss… Read more »

Spark

The bounce back ! But that’s the problem with this team… we will probably come out and belt the Roosters and the Rabbits and we will think everything is again back on keel – and then fold like wet tissue against the Tigers and Warriors !!

Charlo

This happens constantly under brad Arthur, at what point do we all agree he is a good coach but not great. We honestly have to move on from him

Spark

Well he certainly should cop the responsiblity that’s for sure but I think the Eels are just happy to be a performing team qualifying for the finals, we are light years from a premiership team.
He’s had 9 years now so surely there must be a point where the club will have to have a serious conversation with him but I fear that conversation is a few years away yet.

Spark

Thanks for taking the time guys – it was absolutely brutal. I would have to disagree with you regarding Moses, I thought his head was miles away this afternoon. Ok we have the structures and we go off script – agree but there just has to be consequences. There has to be changes. Mahoney was woeful but you bring in Rein ? Who is an absolute shell of his former self. How about going left field and give Hands a go at hooker ? But all this is just a thought bubble as we all know BA will do stuff… Read more »

Anonymous

Its telling when Kyle Flannegan give Mitch Moses a rugby league lesson, not to mention a half backs lesson, and Flannegan wasnt that great, Moses was dreadful!

Spark

One of the worst games I’ve seen Mitch play.
Absolutely abysmal.

Gianni

Maybe Craig or John can answer 1 apparently there wasn’t a captains run yesterday and 2 is Junior carrying an injury that is being kept quiet as he sure is playing like something is the matter.

sixties

I haven’t been getting to training as much this year due to commitments. I didn’t see any training in the lead up to this game.

Shelley

I always try to be positive but it cost my family just over $200 dollars for tickets, parking and petrol, not to mention the 5 hour drive. I have never ever felt like sending in my receipts for a refund but todays ranks as bad as that hot, embarrassing thrashing I sat through in 2018 rd 2 on the hill at Manly. I don’t take any win for granted but I demand that they must turn up and put in a genuine effort. Today they did not, they did not respect the opposition, the fans and embarrassed themselves. We don’t… Read more »

Spark

Totally agree but at least Reed was the only player who rushed Burton today. Everyone else just sat back and let him decide what kick he wanted to execute. It was like the team had been drugged before play ! Woeful and I’ve talked to a lot of supporters who have said that today was it. The eels have a lot of supporters but that’s a two way street, the battle for fans is a tenuous one and battle scarred eels tragics won’t last forever!

Shaun

Gents, as always after such a loss thank you for turning up. It does help. Reed’s form is poor and as others have noted, he seems to be overriding calls and taking poor options especially those bloody crash plays. Stop it!. But I’m not sure who can take his place? Rein seems down on form. Is Hands an option?

Very disappointed like everyone else. The Roosters game is starting to fill me with dread. However I’ll be there.

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Trapped in the 1970’s

Kudos lads for getting that podcast out so early. To my mind their defence has been poor all year and it provides every opponent with a whiff particularly when they turn up with the attitude that they did today. It was just an embarrassment today and how this has happened again so soon after the tigers game is just bewildering and continues to underpin that familiar dialogue about the eels from the rest of the non eels league community and media. If I’ve had a criticism of BA it’s that these sorts of results against lower ranked opponents occur much… Read more »

Ian

I welcome Josh Hodgson coming to the club, he will bring an older head and a steel that our club desperately need. Our leadership group are found wanting on days like today, which happen too often.

pete

Ian, I agree he’s tough and strong in the middle. He’s a an international and very experienced. We’ll be better with him.

Anonymous

Can he last a season?????

sixties

I like this take!

MickB

I enjoyed the pod, well done.

I don’t understand all this talk about attitude. What the hell does that mean?

To me, they just seem to be a footy team with low footy IQ. When their plan is being spoiled, they are far too easily frustrated and beaten. Every individual thinks they can save the day, yet they just keep “digging up, stupid”.

sixties

That was my point. The footy intelligence isn’t on show in a game like that. As I said, it’s currently what separates the Panthers from the pack. Both Cleary and Yeo are terrific on field leaders, and streets ahead of their opposition IQ wise on a weekly basis.

Salty Pete

Penrith players just refuse to give up. It is not in their DNA. To win against Penrith, you have to beat them. They will not beat themselves. They make teams compete for every minute for 80 minutes, and most teams simply can’t go with them. Most teams can’t counter this Penrith attitude, and it instilled in all their players. A case in point is Jaeman Salmon. He leaves the Eels and is now in Panther’s top 17, and his defense is the best I’ve seen in his short career – and he’s actually an attacking player!! This attitude is contagious,… Read more »

Anonymous

Does that not come down to the coach, and the mental toughness instilled in the team!!!

pete

Soft and weak.

pete

Everyone knew JAC needed a big game to press for Origin selection.
Everyone knew this was a danger game
Everyone knew Burton would kick…
Everyone knew Bulldogs would be up against their old enemy…
Everyone one EXCEPT those involved with the Parra team.

BDon

Tks men, what can you say? In the ‘it could be this year’ era, St George early last year showed the formula for reducing us, the ref took a while to jump on the tactics that game but we couldn’t recover, yesterday the ref dealt with it but we still couldn’t compose and recover. We just don’t respond to energy and spoiling when it’s not Storm or Penrith that’s a mental thing, we’re adjusting to what we think the challenge may be. To me, it’s coaching, leadership and the forwards. The worse the forwards go, the more the spine falters,then… Read more »

BDon

And Penrith leadership, Cleary, Yeo and Fisher-Harris.

Big Derek

Far from being a Roosters supporter, in fact I dislike them ferociously, but what was pointed from them was after a bad loss this season, what did Robbo do. He fronted the presser and said “ this is on me, I prepared the team and it wasn’t good enough, I need to do better and not put the side in this position “. The reference that BA makes that it is all about the collision and desire, the frustration of seemingly putting 100% on the players doesn’t build a collective effort. At the same time, perhaps when such an abject… Read more »

Anonymous

🫣😇 which face today derek

Big Derek

WhTs your point, if it’s a dig at me, explain

Longfin Eel

Agreed. Like any sport, if the athlete performs poorly, the coach has to question what went wrong in the preparation. I haven’t heard BA mention anything about this publicly. This type of poor performance seems to happen quite regularly against the lower placed teams, so there is definitely something not right in our preparation for these games.

pete

After a loss like this we need to switch it up we are too predictable.
Maka to start Junior off the bench.
Matto to start
Ice back to the edge
Matata off the bench
Ogden on bench in place of Kafusi
Rodwell in for N Brown
Rein in for Reed
That’s how you rest players! Not give them an easy week off training. Training is where you set the standards.
Talk about big money for Matto is hurting the others that have been let go next year. All of a sudden money can be found?? That causes Poor morale!

Anonymous

I think more of a discussion about the coaching group would be helpful on these podcasts. The playing group cops a hammering from Forty and Sixties and rightly so but all that is said about the coaching group is that the systems are in place to beat the best teams so it must be all okay. Well Bellemy and Robinson and Cleary do not get beaten by average sides or if they do they are very very competitive. Attitude starts with the coaching group and the mentality the players pick up from them. I love BA but I want a… Read more »

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