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Post Game Grades – Round 11 vs Warriors

Parramatta_Eels_logo.svg  Parramatta Eels 14

 New Zealand Warriors 24

The Good:
Large parts of the second half reminded the 9000 or so fans in attendance that the Parramatta Eels can still play good football.

Other than that, at least you’ve got the weekend ahead of you.

The Bad:
To be brutally honest, the entire first half was hot garbage from the Blue & Gold. Completing only 13 from 19 sets (68%) and making 8 errors do not provide a platform for any sort of footballing success. However even more concerning was the lack of intent and pride shown by a number of players at even the hint of misfortune, whether it be a dropped ball or conceded penalty.

There were parts of that opening 40 where team looked about as interested in this game as the NRL public are about kickoff 6pm on a Friday.

If you can stomach watching any sort of replay or highlight, watch the Eels first half defence completely shut off their interest in the play whenever the ball shifts to the other side of the field. To me it screamed of a collection of 17 individuals, rather than a team.

Also, do you hear that? It’s the sound of yet another mid field bomb from the Eels. I don’t want to come across as overly negative, but on those occasions in many ways it would probably be easier for all involved if we simply handed the ball to the nearest opposition player.  Kick. To. The. Corners.

X-Factor:
I won’t lie to you, it was pretty empty at old ANZ tonight.

I know I keep harping on about it but our halves inability or refusal (I’m not sure which one’s worse) to engage the line leaves our attacking structures as either one off settlers (with no support play) or a sideways run pattern on a bridge to nowhere. When our halves engage the line we suddenly find a lot more space to exploit on the edges. It’s not rocket science, but it does require getting hit, and right now the only hits we’re absorbing are on the scoreboard.

So here we are at 2-9 for the season. Sure, we won’t win the premiership this season, but maybe the real premiership is the friends we made along the way.

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The MVP:

 

Gutho was everywhere once again, David Gower was outstanding, Manu Ma’u was excellent but tonight’s MVP is Peni Terepo.

First time winner too, I believe; so he’ll no doubt be stoked.

You the MVP, Peni, you the MVP.

1- Clint Gutherson (c)

Fullback, Parramatta Eels

Out there tonight (and most nights for that matter) Gutho just seems like the Parramatta fan base personified; passionate, desperate and seemingly out of ideas on where to from here. Good on him getting a nice little try early in the second half, leading the lead the team in yardage (177 metres), linebreaks (1) and unfortunately errant passes (2).

2- Bevan French

Left Wing, Parramatta Eels

You see I don’t actually have that much of a problem with Bevan’s involvement tonight, but rather that there simply wasn’t enough of it. In a team with a frequently struggling forward pack, I don’t see how we can carry a winger whose 80 minute body of work only produces 3 runs for 29 metres – I mean he would have walked further making his way into the ground. He also broke a tackle, but that’s basically it.

3- Michael Jennings

Right Centre, Parramatta Eels

Some are calling it his worst ever game in the Blue & Gold, but I think that’s a couple of steps too far. Sure he made mistakes (3 of them) and missed tackles (2 with 1 more ineffective), but he also ran for 117 metres (from 12 hit ups) and that’s not bad.

To be clear, it was not a good game from the Jet, (at all) but I also don’t want to completely ignore the things he actually did do right.

4- Brad Takairangi

Left Centre, Parramatta Eels

Other than the worst grubber kick option you’ll likely ever see, Taka was his regular solid self out there tonight. Always there for the much maligned second hit up, not the sexiest talent out there, but a Taka remains a bit of a glue guy for the Eels in 2018, and his 14 runs for 111 metres were very necessary (see French, Bevan).

5- George Jennings

Right Wing, Parramatta Eels

What a deadset embarrassing miss for Hiku’s try in the 20th minute. With that said, that was his only miss and George’s 14 runs for 118 metres were good, as were his 4 tackle breaks. I’m still a member of his fan club, but tonight’s performance isn’t going to be written about in our monthly newsletter.

6- Corey Norman

Five-Eighth, Parramatta Eels

I know this debate tends to divide a lot of Eels fans, but tonight I grew even more confident in my assertion that I would have Mitch Moses in control of my football team over Corey Norman every day of the week. I know Corey is a laid back character, but it shouldn’t translate to his attacking intensity. Tonight Corey could once again be found meandering into the Warriors defensive line at maybe half pace, constantly swinging somewhere between mildly confused and completely clueless in our attacking 20. For goodness sake Corey you didn’t even kick the ball into touch and missed a team high 4 tackles. I mean I love the bloke, but his body language throughout tonight’s game was dreadful and his lack of impact in recent weeks has been astounding.

At first I thought he did well to almost deny David Fusitu’a’s opening try, but as noted in the comments below, apparently even that was half assed. His only saving grace is apparently he ran for 94 metres tonight.

He is a very, very good footballer when he’s on, but right now he looks borderline apathetic out there.

7- Mitchell Moses

Halfback, Parramatta Eels

Outside of our two tries, the cheer that went up when Moses successfully kicked for touch rivalled any other moment of fan engagement on the night, on par with the 65th entrance of Marata Niukore.

Mitchell tries hard, and is an infinitely more effective player when he straightens the attack, threatening the opposition line with his running game. He wasn’t great tonight, but he’s not giving up, either.

8- Daniel Alvaro

Prop, Parramatta Eels

I thought Alvaro’s attacking intent was much improved this week (11 runs for 106 metres, 2 tackle breaks), and when you take into account his regularly incredible defensive workload, he is the least of our worries. He was a whisker of an angle away from breaking the line open a couple of times. I just hope he can pump out more of these 100m+ running games.

9- Cameron King

Hooker, Parramatta Eels

Once again Kingy provided clean, no-nonsense service to his forwards and halves, but he only really got game time in the opening stanza. Subsequently, Cameron didn’t really have that big an impact on the game, other than the fact I’m pretty sure it was he who kicked the ball out on the full. Ouch.

 

10- Peni Terepo

Prop, Parramatta Eels

Other than a set in the first half where it took Peni 4 tackles into the Eels set to find his way onside, The Butcher was our best player tonight. Even with a strange propensity to run almost directly across field (doubt him at your own peril, it lead to our second try), Terepo’s 13 runs for 145 metres is crazy good output from a starting prop, particularly when you throw in 3 tackle breaks, a try assist and 27 tackles without a miss.

11- Beau Scott

Back Row, Parramatta Eels

It is honestly sad to think that Beau Scott’s brilliant career will be possibly ended by an ACL injury in a mostly rubbish team performance in front of about 3 people. He deserved to go out in much finer fashion, but it evidently wasn’t meant to be.

With that said, I’m not certain whether he’d be even in the team without our slew of injuries. I mean, if it’s experience you require of Beau Scott, surely a less risky option would be to simply sit him next to the bench and get him to tell old war stories about the better times of yesteryear. Whatever happens I’ll miss making up creepy facts about his murderous life away from football.

12- Tepai Moroea

Back Row, Parramatta Eels

Tep’s 8 runs for 77 metres again seemed to have moments of excitement and half breaks, but ultimately stayed under than magic 100 metre mark. I must say I am also a little concerned that one of the guys we consider a defensive presence (another 30 tackles tonight) continues to miss so many (3 missed, a further 3 ineffective). Food for thought, Mr. Moroea.

13- Manu Ma’u

Lock, Parramatta Eels

Monster Mash is 6 kinds of crazy, and they were all out in force tonight. His 17 runs and 154 metres were very impressive, as was his go ahead try in the 62nd minute. Throw in a line break, 4 tackle breaks and 38 tackles, baby you got a stew goin’.

Both Peni and Manu started the game relatively poorly (Manu will a couple of errors, Peni with a lack of aggression), but that second Eels try, thy name is ‘redemption’. Not only was it set up and scored by the aforementioned pair, it was made possible by Gennings knocking Peta Hiku into touch, the very same thing he should have done to prevent Hiku’s try in the first half.

Interchange

14- Will Smith

Interchange, Parramatta Eels

I’ve frequently been a big fan of Cameron King, but even I thought we looked better tonight when Smith was on the park. William got through 5 runs for 47 running metres, 26 tackles and only 1 miss.

Will’s pass into Isaac Luke was cheeky to say the least, and that is the first time I can remember Parra ever taking advantage of this odd little ruck rule.

Not bad, Will.

 

15- Suaia Matagi

Interchange, Parramatta Eels

Hate on him if you want, but Suaia ran 15 times for 148 metres off the bench – that’s good eating from the man they (well, me) call The Bear.

Unfortunately for his band of faithful followers, Matagi only seems to put in an above average performance on a semi-regular basis. I prefer to see him off the bench so let’s he and I agree on him giving us more of this, and I’ll make less inappropriate references about his worth as a lover.

16- David Gower

Interchange, Parramatta Eels

With all due respect to the good doctor, when David Gower is one of your more dangerous hole runners, you either have a horrendous injury toll, or the need for a dramatic roster revamp. The Eels have both.

A quietly monster game from David, with 14 runs, 135 metres, 2 tackle breaks and 25 tackles without a miss. With so many experienced players’ talents falling off a cliff this season, it’s nice to see Gowie’s form stay so lush and evergreen.

 

17- Marata Niukore

Interchange, Parramatta Eels

After many, many days petitioning for his release, it was good to see the young bloke finally run onto the park in his 1st NRL game. His 4 runs for 38 metres (and a tackle break) is a good opening hit out, too. However, I can’t help feel a little sorry for Marata, knowing that his first foray into first grade was often such a rubbish team performance. I suspect he’ll remember that game like a bad, first kiss; on one hand it was exciting and new, but on the other hand it was equal measures awkward, unfamiliar and sloppy.

 

We still sit in 16th on the ladder, and next week we’re off to see the wizard Suncorp Stadium. Prepare thyself.

See you then, sports fans.

 

Thanks for reading, and it’s definitely ‘laurel’.

 

Go you Eels,

Mitch.

 

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Gem KM
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Gem KM

I’m just sadly used to this numb feeling. I love Gowie and I’m growing tired of Corey looking like he doesn’t know what the hell to do.

The Crow
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The Crow

I love Gowie too. He footwork at the line is very deceptive. I’d keep him. As for some of the others tonight….

Offside
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Offside

Well it was more if the same from this bunch. More of the same from the super coach and at his press conference still not showingany signs of accountability. Im flat out at a loss about where to next i guess we try to avoid the spoon but i fail to see how thats possible we don’t look likely to win at all. The one up side is after doing the 4hour round trip from the coast every week for the last 4 weeks straight i decided to give up my membership after 10years of going up and down the… Read more »

Parra Pete, Thurgoona
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Parra Pete, Thurgoona

I thought Peni Terepo had his best game EVER for the Eels

Salty Pete
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Salty Pete

Wow. That first half was horrendous. No chance building any sort of pressure or platform. Problem for Moses is that with lack of possession and completions, he doesn’t have the luxury of mixing up his game – passing, taking on the line, just getting tackled, etc. It has come to the time where continual mistakes by the same players can’t be tolerated. It’s killing the team. Some players – not many – have to be dropped. The team needs a reset. Not a drastic one, but something needs to give. As awful as it sounds, the season is gone. Time… Read more »

Shelley
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Shelley

I have criticised them often so praise I will tonight. Well done to our forwards. This is not our best forward pack and not the one I want going into the end of the year and certainly not next year but every single one tried their guts out. They took on a big pack and held their own. Apart from Manu they did not threaten the Warriors but they showed passion and commitment. They gave our backs a chance to win it, they simply could not. Sorry but I really think Michael Jennings was dreadful. Normally so reliable in defense… Read more »

The rev aka Snedden
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The rev aka Snedden

Sorry Shelley but there is no way that you can partner Norman n Hayne in the halfs there both lazy n will only make the side go worse.

Rowdy
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Rowdy

G’day Rev, I think you actually missed what Shelley was saying mate. She didn’t pair them together in the Halves, Shelley said put Hayne in Taka’s centre spot outside Norman mate. Prompting Taka’s move back into the backrow to create 2nd faze.

Hearndo
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Hearndo

Absolutely gutted for Beau Scott. It looks like that was his last ever NRL game and to go out like that just isn’t fair. The way he pushed the trainers away to let him walk off the field by himself with a suspected ACL tear summerises the type of player he has been – a tough, relentless player. “How the hell does he play like that, throwing his body on the line every week and reach the amount of NRL games he has” – a remark my dad and I constantly exchange regarding Beau Scott. Although his performances this year… Read more »

Trouser Eel
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Trouser Eel

David Gower is a class player. I can’t remember a time that I’ve been disappointed with his effort. He was my MVP tonight.
In a night where we seemed to drop the ball at will (and there’s an intentional dark undertone in that statement) Peni’s grasp on the ball was one for the books.
Thanks again Mitch for your continued efforts in bringing these grades out. They truly are a beacon of good humour & intelligent comment about our team, who would otherwise only have sad & disappointing things said about them.

Chief man
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Every side needs onr player like David Gower. Although he’s almost at retirement he still goes ok.

The problem with Parramatta is that we have 6 David Gowers all in semi retirement

Yaya
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Yaya

I can’t tell if your statement about Norman’s effort on fusitua is sarcastic ? He was dreadful all night. That particular tackle even the commentators pointed out he had time to do more than a little half shove. He looks uninterested which is what kills me most when players like Gower and Mau are out there busting gut. No doubt in my mind if he actually used his brain and had a dig we would’ve won that game. Never known a half in first grade nrl to catch a ball and look so lost all to just run in a… Read more »

Chief man
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Can we please have rating on what Brad Arthur has achieved in his five year tenure. I’ll rank it from most important to least Recruitment D Too many older experienced forwards who are all getting towards the end. Gutherson Brown and Moses have done well but Brown is the only decent forward ba has purchased in 5 years . Retention D Lost Paulo and now wants him back. Matto Aloia & Twal would have been handy. Semi should have been retained long before the Rugby came knocking. Development F Alvaro was the last forward debutant (2015) before tonight. French (2016)… Read more »

Trouser Eel
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Trouser Eel

Hey chief, thanks for your post. I don’t need to read them, I just see your name and assume all the little words under it are a criticism of the coach. It saves me time and reminds me why I don’t go to one eyed eel anymore.

Ray
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Ray

You’re totally correct Trouser, you only have to read one of Choofy’s posts & you’ve read them all.

JonBoy
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JonBoy

Love it…

Offside
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Offside

Chief has every right to his opinion why is it so hard to except that BA needs to held accountable and that finishing 4th last years means nothing this year

Rowdy
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Rowdy

How about some responses to Chiefy’s dribble. BA’s previous 4 years? Better than anyone else who’s coached the side long enough to get his own roster. Recruitment D? When BA arrived, a) we had no tough experienced forwards left to teach the young blokes how to win tough! b) BA had lost Hindy and had to let Fui go to reserve grade so he could give 2 young local juniors Jnr Paulo and Pauli Poorly a go in first grade. Result? 1 good’un and 1 not so good’ who actually played some very good impressive games until he was found… Read more »

June
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June

I think you were a little kind on Norman, he looks disinterested most of the time, I’d have given him a F. He’s been with us a while now and the amount of average games he’s had far outweighs the good ones. I thought the forewards aimed up last night. I know it was 6pm Friday but it gets very cold and lonely st ANZ with such a small crowd. ANZ has no soul.

Chris
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I have long defended Norman but he lost me for good last night. Not too many people left in that boat now. We should try to get what we can for him, a swap with someone from the Bulldogs, Titans or Canberra because his trade value is decreasing every week. Moses isn’t getting anywhere near enough ball. BA has obviously instructed Corey to run the team and be the dominate half. This decision needs to be reversed. Moses always has a go and while you are doing that, things might just turn. I cant say that about Norman anymore. Our… Read more »

Emtee
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Emtee

Personally think that rating flattered our 5/8. Play seemed to stop when he got the ball. Took wrong options. Failed to find touch from a penalty. Inneffrctive grubber leading to a penalty for tackling the player off the ball. Its not a good look after his social media video last weekend when the players were hurting. Im not saying it had anything to do with his performance, but I could forgive anyone thinking he is phoning it in when they see him out having a good time followed by that performance.

Chief man
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Hey, it’s obvious now. This site is an Arthur free bagging zone

Lady Eel
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Lady Eel

Putting out the bait and waiting for the bites! It’s very boring and goes nowhere towards any constructive criticism or intelligent discussion or debate. This season is not going well sure, but hanging the coach ôut to dry is not the solution. We have been through the revolving door of coaches era thank you.

DDay
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DDay

It’s obvious to most your negativity is a grind

The rev aka Snedden
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The rev aka Snedden

Ur a goose we know that much chief man.

Colin Hussey
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Colin Hussey

Something in me last night had me not even thinking of even listening to the match on the radio call. I tipped an 8 point win for the eels but, as I am having a bummer of a year in the tipping arena I just remain an eels supporter but I think I need to go to a shrink this week to get my marbles polished or replaced. I am happy that Marata got a run and at least did some good but seems he played a bit better than some of the higher paid and regular squad. I know… Read more »

Trouser Eel
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Trouser Eel

If you’re going to the shrink to get your marbles polished, you’re going to the wrong place. I normally have to pay for dinner and a movie for that kind of service.

Colin Hussey
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Colin Hussey

I’m talking of different marbles to what your mind is perceiving. Not everything is rated in the same area as your mind sits.

Poppa
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Poppa

LOL……with a name like Trouser Eel your entitled to have your marbles polished.

Milo
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Milo

Col, I am similar in thoughts mate and have been cranky as for a week or ten now. Its actually quite depressing tbh. Some people dont get it. Ive never played grade footy and only club; and wish I could have played reps as a kid etc like many. I can’t believe some of the perceived lack of efforts i saw last night and am not sure what to make of it. Our fwds did well as whole and know we were under strength but should have won. I do think we need to adjust the halves in some way;… Read more »

Colin Hussey
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Colin Hussey

Milo, While I am not in a position to speak based on seeing Friday nights game but have read enough to wade through the comments and form a personal opinion and what I believe is that some of the past rumours and subsequent denials must have some weight to them. What I am talking about is regarding one player in the team causing the problem. The more I see his play and hear about his play, there’s little doubt in my mind that he is on the field, taking up a spot, getting his pay, generally under false pretences. If… Read more »

Milo
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Milo

Some good points there Col, as i watch Harry and Meghan tie the knot. If we got Farah he’d be hooker for me. I’d prefer to throw salmon in the spot than have Farah but i see your view. I just hope BA and coaches have or are planning as we speak. They say we are fighting each week and that’s right but we are also in need of fwds for the season next and imo a hooker. IMO we either throw Mahoney up there next season and give him a chance this yr or we clear decks with King… Read more »

Colin Hussey
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Colin Hussey

Milo, I guess unless we win next week against the horses, I thing its perhaps time to through caution to the wind in a bit. However, even with a win the team needs to be told to play things as they see it and take chances, cannot do any worse than we have been. That would mean some drastic changes in direction, and it will cost coin and paying overs, there’s been no news come out about the signing of Paulo or others for some time now, the last being Alvaro,Brown & Smith. Trouble with fighting each week as it… Read more »

John Eel
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John Eel

Colin I am not sold on Napa. Whilst it is hard to argue that when he is playing SOO, I just think that he drifts in and out of games. Better judges than me are talking him up though.

Klemmer is a long shot can’t see him leaving the Dogs but he really gets thru the work. I would settle for him. He has a big motor and plenty of aggression.

Colin Hussey
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Colin Hussey

John, I agree with you up to a point with Napa, as he does drift in and out of a game, in SOO he is a mongrel, but in what I’ve seen of him this year he’s been pretty well consistent and playing good minutes and hard minutes, he’s probably on notice though from Robbo. What Klemmer is putting out it would be a hard call that he would come to the eels, I read this morning that the dogs have said they would not have to release any of their players, I think that’s likely blurb but I see… Read more »

John Eel
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John Eel

I agree with your comments on Klemmer. However it is fanciful for the dogs to think that they will not have to release players. They will need to recruit to cover for injury and loss of form for a start. They have $500,000 to cover 5 positions that they need to fill on minimum contracts next season. They can’t do it. They will have to release players to get by. The other issue is that unless they release good players the new club will expect them to pay some of the freight. This is the same problem that we have… Read more »

Chief man
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We’re shooting ourselves in the foot
We’re nit giving ourselves a chance

Rowdy
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Rowdy

Good supporting constructive comment Chief, truly nothing wrong with that. You might add, “BA has not come up with the answer as yet, and it is responsibility to do so as head coach”! No problem with that either from my perspective because it’s true.

Realistic Eel
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Realistic Eel

Here’s my grading of our squad: Gutherson: Champion player just needs to work on his passing under pressure. French: Needs the ball in open space not in heavy traffic. M.Jennings: Time to retire. Takairangi: Clumsy player. Too slow for centre. Better off a a utility on the bench. G.Jennings: Tries hard but not a first grader. Norman: Very sad…..so much ability yet lazy, party boy, too casual, runs across field, gets on awful positions to get his kicks away, Auckland 9s specialist. Moses: Shows glimpses of being a decent 7 & looks dangerous when he straightens our attack. Question his… Read more »

BDon
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BDon

Your comment on Marata. I thought last night he reminded me a bit of Taniela Lasalo, who Kearney tried to develop. He was a sound defender but I never saw a bloke get pushed backwards so much. Big difference was you could see Marata had some go forward/leg drive. Also liked the way he defused an Isaac Luke sledging session, assured and confident.

The rev aka Snedden
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The rev aka Snedden

It’s yarrny Mitch god has spoken its both depends on your age group. Brother Mitch as you know I’m not one to hammer the coach. But what I will say some ppl will think I’m mad. I IMO n MO only I think it’s time we release brad n bring in Jason Taylor as head coach n Brian smith as coaching director. We have always been a very poor attacking unit n our defence is not much better. Look at brad in the press conference it’s the same old stuff like we had effet n energy. We just have to… Read more »

sixties
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Rev, normally love your work but the Taylor and Smith combination would be a disaster. There is a reason why Taylor and clubs part ways and Smiths last 5 years at Parra were a disaster (2005 excepted) with a success rate of 45% and a dismantling of the rampant 2001 team in record breaking time.
Brad is a loyal coach, but selecting a bloke in a key position like 5/8 who is a massive liability on current form is making a rod for his own back. It’s time to give Corey a rest.

Shelley
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Sixties it has taken a while to come around to this view but even I can’t and won’t defend what I saw last night. The difference between Norman and Moses was so obvious- one cared and tried really hard, probably too hard and the other one was in uniform and on the field. We all know who was who and in all honesty so must the other players in our team. For me it is very disappointing to say but I know what I saw last night and I really disliked it.

Tad
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Tad

I think Corey is playing to his potential and not a great deal more improvement with him..Maybe he would be helped with a more dominant pack.I think we have lost out a bit without Mannah. Disappointing thing for me is our persistence with one out plays against bigger forward packs. Once again very few offloads and very little with support. I noticed in the last couple of minutes we started to throw the ball around a lot and that was probably the most fluid part of the game for us.I would like to see alot more of that type of… Read more »

Colin Hussey
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Colin Hussey

So we have to wait for the last few minutes for him to wake up. I think the only wake up call that he needs is to go back to ISP or ask for a release. If he went back to Wenty what would that do to them?

The rev aka Snedden
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The rev aka Snedden

Sixties my son I will have to agree on Norman. What i don’t get with him is why has he stopped going down that left edge with mua n takarangi. Something tells me his of to Canberra next year n only hanging around for the money. It’s time to bring in salmon. With the smith n Taylor combo it was just a thought because if you notice with Jason Taylor every team his been at they are free flowing of point in there favour. Maybe someone need to give brad some fresh ideas who knows but from what I see… Read more »

Gazzamatta
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Gazzamatta

Possibly swap Corey and Gutho might freshen him up 60s. Seems to have helped Morgan. Corey can be so good. Its very dissappointing.

John Eel
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John Eel

Smith’s time has gone. He had many years and good rosters without a GF win. That is not going to change now.

Colin Hussey
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Colin Hussey

Totally agree John. Many may look back at the Smith years with envy, but in reality they were years that topped up our 80’s when we won premierships, & each one was a continuation of a RL utopia for the eels. Yet, with the players we had and even his smarts, the only thing that he brought to the club, was consistency and no more trophies, his final couple of years culminating in his resigning was not going to take us forward. The dumb coaching appointments that caused issues also need to be put in the vault, and locked up… Read more »

Poppa
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Poppa

I think you are looking at Norman wrongly…the problem is his style of play not being complimentary to Moses, maybe no ones fault as much as different styles not working….a way to explain this is Moses is a playmaker and Norms a playtaker (short kicking aside, Norms leads stats for the comp on forced line drops). It seems to me the judgements of his not trying are harsh, I watched the game and saw no lack of effort only ability to create vision in the upcoming plays. I would move him to centre and let Salmon play as a direct… Read more »

Tad
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Tad

Hi Poppa what do you and others think about how we played in the last minute of so when we threw the ball around all over the place –must have touches at least 7 different hands in a one tackle segment– We rarely see that type of flow..I thought it worked really well and would like to see that type of play more often rather than the one out stuff without an offload. Norman to centre? Norman to fullback?

Poppa
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Poppa

Its all about risk management Tad, every side in the comp plays that way when their 10 down and 5 minutes to play.
It is a game about discipline and making less errors, if you can drop the discipline and drop the error rate, you will get the answer you are looking for.
Unfortunately that usually only works when you are desperate at the end of a game.
Emphasises again the need to play with confidence and belief in yourselves…..easier said than done.

Tad
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Tad

Thats what maybe the problem Poppa–when you tighten up you get get too cautious about making errors and the focus changes to a style with less confidence and flow. When you have a nothing to lose attitude sometimes the creative talents emerge. A balance between high risk and creative flair

West Coast Eel
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West Coast Eel

Really disappointed in Norman at the moment. Sure Moses wasn’t great, but he’s having a dig. Thoughts on Hayne or French at fullback next week, Gutherson to 6. Norman to Wenty. I can’t see Norman being at Parra for much longer.

sixties
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I think I’d be tempted to run Smith at 5/8. Hayne still isn’t ready and when he is, I doubt he could immediately handle fullback.

Tad
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Tad

what about Taka to 5/8 and hayne to centre?

Poppa
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Poppa

Hayne is not a centre, Salmon is the obvious 5/8 if we are preparing this side for next year. Taka goes to the bench for mine and the centre spot can be worked between Guth and Norman. As stated elsewhere I would prefer to see Norms given a chance in centres.
He is down in confidence, I reckon his effort is better than suggested.

West Coast Eel
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West Coast Eel

I like smith on the bench. Not sure how he’d go a 5/8. I don’t think king is an 80 min hooker. Agree on hayne. He’s probably not fit enough for fullback. Man, I just want things to turn. A few wins would be nice. I’m sick of the sleepless nights after a loss!

John Eel
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John Eel

I guess that you never know what is going on behind closed doors but they are still to sign the 30th player yet. Given that we need to sign someone by June 30 they could do worse than upgrade Salmon’s contract

Poppa
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Poppa

When you say that he is not ready, does that imply he is not over his injury yet 60’s ?

Anonymous
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Anonymous

I think that play by Will’s a disgrace. I hate it when other clubs do it. That’s a Cronk special and not at all in the spirit of the game. It needs to be discouraged if not banned.

Chris
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Chris

The Milford one was worse. If it didn’t hit the rooster the pass would have ended up in the stands !! The bloke wasn’t even in the ruck.

JonBoy
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JonBoy

I can’t agree enough about the calls for Corey to go and find himself in the ISP for a week or two. Maybe there is some substance behind the earlier rumours about Canberra and this is his way of getting out of the last year of his contract…makes it much easier to say goodbye? I lost count of the times I threw my hands in the air last night screaming at our lack of support play. There was soooo many missed opportunities for offloads with half breaks being made but NO ONE in support. I think Bevan has lost interest… Read more »

The rev aka Snedden
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The rev aka Snedden

I agree about beau his done very well wile at parra.
On bevan as far as I know his playing injured. What you have to understand with French his our josh addo-car as semi was our vanivuli n by not having semi French has had no room to move our halfs are not running to or thru the line n our pack is being bashed up week after week.

Rowdy
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Rowdy

Great grades Mitch. I don’t see much humor in there though (unlike your clandestine lovers comments) Separating Peni and Manu for MVP must have been a trial? All the comments supporting your Norman D- grade speak for themselves and I have been Corey fan since he came to the club. I don’t believe anyone in the top 17 would be the answer at 5/8 without weakening another position though. Therefore I would have to proffer the suggestion I heard from Parrathruanthru yesterday as we braved the elements at Leichhardt. If Hayne is available? Play him outside Mitch! I would support… Read more »

Poppa
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Poppa

Hayne has never been a 5/8 even at the peak of his career, he is too lazy and would never work enough. At present he is soley a winger and if he ever regains full match fitness then fullback.
This romance with Hayne in the halves is just that!

Chris
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Chris

I agree. Hayne is a winger these days and nothing wrong with that. He will swap with the centre on occassion as he did when he threw the last pass for the try when he injured himself. He should have a roaming commission.