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The Tip Sheet – 2022 Ep 80: Instant Reaction, Eels Obliterate Raiders & Book Date With Destiny Feat. John Muggleton

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In front of 29,000+ raucous fans the Parramatta Eels have delivered an almighty inverted suplex to the King Kong sized gorilla on their back. Their 40-4 victory over the Canberra Raiders has catapulted them to within 80min of the big dance itself with only the North Queensland Cowboys standing in their way.

Sixties and Forty20 are joined by John Muggleton live from Jacks Bar & Grill as they soak in the watershed night for Brad Arthur and his valiant charges. With a packed house full of exuberant fans, they walk through Muggo’s storied career and how he saw tonight’s victory.

Apologies for any audio feedback in this particular episode. Parramatta Leagues Club was as can you imagine very, very loud!

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Billy

Haven’t got to listen yet (just got home), but just had to say – how good was the Eels fans standing up and cheering young JA as he walked off? Great to send a message that the keyboard warriors and the small number of idiots booing a few weeks back don’t represent us as a fanbase. Particularly after the Fox muck-raking and misrepresentations this week, all while talking up their mate Ricky.

Three hours later and still trying to calm the adrenaline rush to get some sleep – how good’s winning???

sixties

Billy – winning is good, it’s so much better than the alternative.

Vanessa

Fantastic atmosphere last night with a great result. I was especially proud of the round of applause for JA as he walked around the ground. It was true support, I hope he took it in.

sixties

Though Jake has a tremendous ability to block out external noise, I’m sure he would have appreciated it.

Spark

He is apparently a great kid and deserved the applause he received.

Spark

Again here you are lumping everyone in the same basket ! All the so called ‘keyboard warriors’ are merely pointing out that in their opinion, Jake is not good enough to be selected and that the team is poorer for his inclusion. I also stand by that assertion. We have the right to have that opinion and we do represent a large part of the fan base ! Don’t lump those that have an opinion on this subject into the same group that boo the kid as that act is completely reprehensible. It was a great night and I clapped… Read more »

Billy

You’re putting words in my mouth. I was talking about the people who are hurling abuse and crossing the line, not the people who disagree with his selection. It’s not me who lumped them into one bucket, it’s you. If you feel it was directed at you, then maybe you have crossed the line on occasion. Personally, I’m tired of those against BA lumping anyone who says anything positive about Jake in the same bucket. I happen to agree that I’d rather see someone else on the bench. But I also understand the rationale for selecting him, I think he’ll… Read more »

Spark

Well I would have to respectfully disagree on many of your points but I’m quite comfortable with that.

Anonymous

Perfectly stated!

Anonymous

The team had become sloppy just before Mitch went off and I had lamented that as it was unfolding. Fortunately it had little consequence.

pete

Oh and when Clearly or Trobovic or Reynolds or Teddy go down. Nobody notices anything different? Does every team lift in a sudden death final when they lose their most influential player?
You are drawing such a long bow and attempting to shoot aound corners with it.

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Spark

Damn don’t know why everybody is losing their undies here. Yes you are right, every team goes down gears when they lose their play maker. I made no adverse reference to Jake, even complimented him and adduced that it was probably the opposition lifting. Don’t know where your closing sentence comes from or even what point you are making.

pete

And I quote you;
“didn’t the team absolutely shit itself when Moses went off or was it the fact that the opposition sensed a weakness”

You just try not to mention him by name but the inference is very clear. Your long bow refers to you doing precisely that! In a passive aggressive writing style. Surely even you can understand your own rubbish you spout off? Can’t you?

Spark

The weakness that I spoke about was that our prime play maker went off NOT that there was a lesser player that replaced him.
The fact that you have made an inference that was incorrect isn’t my fault.
And happy to disagree and appreciate discourse but I have never denigrated anything you have written as rubbish so I would appreciate the same courtesy.

pete

The team didn’t “shit itself” as you put it
when Moses left. They were solid.
To say they did is rubbish or would you prefer inaccurate?
If you claim you did not infer that? Then it is is being disingenuous given everything else you wrote on the topic recently.
The bench is what it is. We don’t select it. That’s BAs job.
Why not try and enjoy the win.

Spark

Look there was a distinct drop off when Moses when off. That’s my opinion and I’m sure I’m not alone. You believe that they were solid during that period. That’s fine.
Agree we as fans can’t influence it. We can have our opinions and well that’s what these forums are for.
Enjoyed the win immensely thank you for your concern, my wife and I flew down from Brisbane with a mate who is a massive Raiders fan – winner picked up the tickets and fare !

Spark

Obviously meant loser picked up the tickets ! Great success!

pete

That sounds great. Enjoy.

pete

So good to see this result.
Well done on a great team performance.
Well done to BA for showing the way forward.
The rubbish in the media this week is put to bed.
Go Eels!!

sixties

Pete, the rubbish will always be lapped up by some, but the performance tonight showed it has no validity. I couldn’t believe that the narrative prematch was back on whether BA would be retained if Parra lost. Anyone would think that the team had finished in the bottom half of the table.

!0 Year Member

True sixties re BA. Whilst the Murdoch aka super league bias against is is still ongoing….. Nothing against the other top 4 sides…. Hang on…. . They were all on the dark side. Us supporters, whilst very happy to have a competitive side ….. Were also wondering if BA could take us to the next level. Yes he can ! Only concern I have now is can we handle the grind defensively? Still. The smile cannot be wiped off my face today.

sixties

How good is the day after an important win!

Anonymous

yes its gr8 feeling, my cocern is we got beat in the heat by cows in darwin now they have trained 4 two weeks in the heat

Spark

Let’s seperate the validity of the reports and the spot fires and say that there may be some substance in them but the team, like true professionals, rose above that and played well. You can’t dismiss the multitude of reports from different sources because we had a dominant win.
No doubt there are agendas but there is probably some substance amongst the chaff.

Shaun

Rubbish. It was one report and one source. That it was Hadley who ran with it gives you a hint where it is coming from.

Spark

You know this how ? Your assertion is that the only person in Sydney who had detrimental things to say against the Eels and its structures including pathways , nepotism and reports of player unrest is Ray Hadley ?? Wow – I knew he was powerful but you are really putting him on a pedestal in Svengali territory!

Shaun

You are being disingenuous and twisting my words. I absolutely no issue with the report and it’s conclusions. I have an issue using a report about JUNIOR pathways to try and destabilise and run a tired agenda against the NRL team on the eve of a critical game.

Billy

You are just busting for an argument, aren’t you? Have a Bex and a good lie down Spark!

Spark

Hahaha a bex ! We have a great win and suddenly we can’t talk about improvement and denigrate any bad people who dare suggest that we are less than perfect ! I made two points – 1. Let’s not bundle so called keyboard warriors with those who boo Jake, I made my position quite clear and 2. Just because we had an empathic victory it doesn’t exclude the fact that there are probably issues regarding selections. Hadley is one of those who has been prominent in highlighting this but there are many more including a plethora of fans. There IS… Read more »

sixties

It is not a fact at all Spark.

Spark

Well sixties, we all have our own sources. I appreciate you have yours and I implicitly trust the people I speak to.
I withdraw my assertion that it’s a fact but it’s definitely the information I have personally been told.

John Eel

Muggo was going home to listen to Ricky Stuart’s presser. He was very complimentary to the Eels and offered no excuses

BA on the other hand touched on the garbage that went on this week in the media. He was sharp but controlled himself at the same time.

The Eels were very good tonight. A great team effort and they deserved their win.

A repeat performance next week will see them take out the Cowboys.

sixties

Dare we dream John?

Dazboy70

100% percent we can

Chris K

Loved that! Still filthy about the ‘no-try’ on a ball that came backwards out of Dylan’s hands – just watched the NRL highlights, where they chose to omit that (despite showing the near-try on the kick back infield which Wighton couldn’t take).

Incidentally, Wighton is now hight on my sh*tlist – not only was pinning Moses’ arms and slamming him backwards questionable (versus the ‘high tackle’ on Niuokore?!?!? that was penalised), but 30 points down with minutes to go and he still goes out of his way to hurt Moses.

BDon

That pass is let go all year, hands square at minimum and defending team shot. That had all the ingredients of a head slam on Moses but it’s clear that finals are here. Sivo’s non-try, the ball glanced the leg of the Raider but I couldn’t see any separation from Maika’s hand, on field call was try, I thought it had to be conclusive to overrule. You get the feeling any one of those 2 disallowed would have been flood gate time.

HamSammich

On the Gutho try that would have put us up 28-0. We get a break and then we get the ball back in our hands, this suits our forward pack massively. Instead 2 sets later we concede on a heads up play by Savage.

Clive

I thought the pass was ok but Gutho stuffed the play with his run onto the ball. He was way too flat which made it hard for Dylan to throw it backwards. If Gutho is 2mtrs further back Dylan would have had to absolutely botch the pass for it to go forward.

sixties

Momentum buster Ham.

John Eel

BDon agree with your analysis on both tries. The Gutherson try was flat at worst. Fox reckon that same pass has been let go 1 million times since NRL began. That may be a slight exaggeration but I take the point. The Sivo try was disallowed by the bunker but analysing the shots shown on Fox the separation was not obvious. Two poor decisions that did not effect the outcome. However I am so sick of the inconsistent decisions. It is hurting the game. The other bad call in my opinion was the treatment handed out to MM by Wighton.… Read more »

John Eel

Interesting Cam Smith on SEN came out this morning and said he thought Wighton got off lightly given what penalties other players have received so far in the finals series.

MM has been a target for some time. The vast majority of it goes unpunished including grub NAS.

Spark

The Sivo try was 50/50 and it was a toss up whether it was going to be rewarded.
The gutho forward pass was also 50/50 but the fault well and truly lies with gutho here. He had no reason to be anywhere near flat with Dylan as he had no one around him. If he had slowed just a little, we wouldn’t be talking about it.

sixties

I predicted that such a decision would be coming literally a minute before it happened.

BDon

Hi sixties, could I ask a quick, probably dumb, question. This year you are preventing access to the Twitter comments, they appear for a few seconds then a log in, which you can’t dismiss, blocks out the comments. I used to enjoy a quick speed read of these comments. Is this something to do with separating platforms or just a tech thing?

Billy

It’s not just TCT, it happens on everything. If you hit the login button, then close that window, you can see the comments. Or login. Irritating, but if you don’t want a Twitter account, you can still view it without signing up. It’s just a way for the platform to make you decide it is easier if you join, boosting their numbers so Musk likes them back again 😂

BDon

Sorted, tks for that.

John Eel

BA was a little pessimistic about Opacic’s injury last night.

That could see Waqa move back to centre and maybe Simmonson or Russell go to the wing?

Opacic has done well playing at left centre since he came back into the side.

Billy

If he’s hurt his hammy, it’s probably his last game for us, which is a shame. Simonsson was playing centre in reggies. I’d put him at centre and leave Blake on the wing. I want to keep Niukore rotating with Matto.

John Eel

The Niukore Matterson rotation is doing well. Would not change it.

Spark

I’d actually look at keeping Waqa at wing and moving Simmonson to centre.

Shaun

What a night. I expected a close game not a demolition job. So many good things. Mitch and Dylan. The crowd cheering JA after his stint. The double to Marata. The Parra crowd doing a cheeky Viking clap. BA’s pointed and direct presser and Ricky’s gracious one. Go you Eels and bring on the Cowboys.

Last edited 19 days ago by Shaun
Anonymous

It’s a beautiful Saturday despite the rain!

Shaun

Indeed it is!

sixties

You might have to start predicting Marata doubles!

Shaun

I bet it would have paid quite well! Of course, as soon as I go off a Sivo double he will get one.

sixties

Then stick strong mate!

MickB

Any thoughts on the Wighton hit with Moses on the ground? I have no issue with him finishing the tackle, but I didn’t think he needed to belt him so aggressively, and also thought Wighton got him a bit high with shoulder to head contact? Great game. Like any time we win, there’s a good distribution of effort between forwards and backs, and not just full reliance on our middles to turn the game. Hard to pick a best on park. Halves were obvious candidates, but I feel like Guthos efforts were what inspired the team. Muggos analysis was pretty… Read more »

John Eel

Wighton was put on report but there were no charges. No case to answer.

BDon

Wighton on Moses on ground…first look was that forearm or fist didn’t make contact but another angle showed contact via upper arm/shoulder and Moses’head recoiling, not a big whiplash but enough to say ‘he got him’.

Spark

Nothing in it. Penalty was rediculous.

sixties

What disappoints me about the Wighton tackle and other similar hits is that right or wrong, penalties only result because a team mate reacts.

Spark

The problem is that the interpretation is just so damned arbitrary. Rapana received a penalty for us allegedly holding him down when they were a metre or two off our line in the second half. He went to play the ball and just fell down forward. There wasn’t a touch on him.
I thought Klein was definitely giving the Raiders a leg up and could have penalised them a multitude of times.
Yet reference to the Raiders forum have them complaining that Klein was helping the Eels all night !!!

sixties

That Rapana 6 again and penalty came from him wrapping his arms around Gutho’s legs. Strange call given the circumstances.

Longfin Eel

I think we have to thank the media just a smidgen for that win. The crap they have been dealing out was designed to destabilise the team, but to Parra’s credit, it did the complete opposite. They played like a united team – hope to see more of that same attitude next week.

sixties

In fact, David Riccio said that – with particular reference to BA’s presser comments.

Big Derek

No doubt 2GB will have a Monday morning response to the agenda statement, something about sources and how does anyone dare question anything I say.

DDay

Enjoyed the interview with Muggleton, great to hear about the 80s and his take on the performance.
I hadn’t picked up on the change of tactics he talked about, spreading the ball coming out of our red zone rather than back thru sivo in the 2nd hit-up.
Wise words wrt tweaking the RHS defence.
He doesn’t like Sticky!! Summed him up to a “tee”.

sixties

Yeah, and didn’t the crowd love his comments!

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